Thursday, February 21, 2013

Five reason why you shouldn't buy Lava, Micromax, Karbonn, Celkon mobiles?

a) Lava is great but what about is SAR value?

< 1.6 is not a figure. Why isn't there a clarity on the values?

Micromax's have their ratings but I dont think it's been ever ratified.

Even Nokia 1280(INR 999) has a SAR-TICK sticker at the back.
None of Karbonn, Lava or Micromax's is listed in the www.sar-tick.com site.

Here are the manufacturers on the list:

Apple
LG
Motorola
Nokia
Samsung
Sony Ericsson

-All oldies :)

b) Value for money but is it worth it?

So I own Lava KKT 40+ (Note that I was the first to review and give a 5 stars on Flipkart.com).
Now, after 6 months of usage, the phone has started emanating a "circuit smell"(circuit burning/wire burning) if I remove the battery.
Flipkart, you folks are innocent. But, I haven't heard anything from Lava yet inspite of my complaints.

Yes, in India, a recall is very rarely heard of.


c) How can a phone be so cheap? All low end chinese boards?

In the battle between the big fish and the small fish, I am amazed to see how much of "extra" the small ones are offering.
It totally baffles me on why Samsung Galaxy Duos would cost 12 K and something that has configurations equivalent to Galaxy S3 (Lava Iris 501)
would cost just 9499 with goodies like Bluetooth headset and 4 GB card.
Forget about the ad-factor that contributes to the pricing, Micromax too sponsors IPL and cricket tourneys along with Karbonn.


d) Sales and support

There are only three to four service centers listed for a place like Bangalore in the Lava Support list.
And they were in areas equivalent to Siberia in terms of "I know the place exists but where the heck is it?"

So, when I had a screen crack on Lava KKT 40+, I took it to a local repair shop & it costed me about 600 INR to get replacement.
He swore to me that it took him 5 hours to find the part in SP Road Bangalore.
And 600 INR though a small amount(?), is 30% of the Cost prize.
Imagine, if it was a 10 K phone.

I asked the man on which of these new brands have good after sales and support. He just told me that it was tough and Micromax was just a little better than the rest.

e) Lava, Micromax, Nokia, Samsung

Which one would you carry? Yes, it is just the name that matters atleast for 90% of us


But, the final choice is yours, my friend!



7 comments:

  1. its always interesting to read your post my fren.

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  2. its always interesting to read your post my fren!

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  3. Mama,

    I don't agree to your thoughts here, sorry.

    Micromax A110 came with a SAR certificate of 0.69 watt/kg rating which is pretty decent in my opinion. Govt of India law regulates that every mobile phone have the SAR rating on it, either on the box or inside it. And everyone, including Samsung or Micromax or Lava for that matter MUST comply.

    Secondly, yes smartphones can be that cheap. And they are. That is where companies like Samsung rake in the profits. But there are other costs involved too. For example, the boards. Samsung etc use ARM processors which are top of the line mobile processors. Micromax etc don't use ARM - they use MediaTek. Performance takes a hit, although the paper specifications may be tempting, but then it is cheap. Same with Graphics processors. Same with RAM. Same with the touch screen hardware, etc. That is a CONSIDERABLE cost-cutting for a mobile phone.

    Next point, Samsung etc invest HEAVILY in advertisements but Micromax etc, although they do advertise even in IPL (Karbonn Kamaal Katch for example) it is very limited and is nowhere near what Samsung or Nokia can afford. And don't forget Samsung/Nokia roping in celebrities for promotions/ads (like SRK in Nokia ad). These costs add up.

    Another point. Samsung does not give stock Android with its phone. It gives what it calls a TouchWiz interface (V4.0 on my S3) which is basically customization of the Android OS with Samsung's own skin. This takes a lot of R&D investment. Micromax on the other hand doesn't bother with all this and simply provides stock Android. Another round of cost cutting.

    Finally, the brand factor. Ten years ago, Samsung (at least in India) was a relatively unheard of name in mobile phones. Nokia was the ruler. Samsung's C100 probably brought the first notable Samsung phone to Indian market. It cost around 10k then. Same spec features given by Nokia was AT LEAST 15k. Brand factor. Which Nokia could leverage then to command a higher premium in the market. And what Samsung does now. And what Micromax will do after five years from now.

    It's not just mobile phones. Meera and Prajjwal were saying that Samsung 40" HD LED TV's cost 30k in Thailand. The same TV cost me 55k in India. My DSLR camera cost me 60k in US, when the price in India was 89k for the same thing.

    It's like getting a branded desktop of DELL or IBM from the market for 70-80k, and getting the same (and better) unit assembled in SP Road for about 30-35k.

    The choice, like you said, is ours! :)

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  4. Mama,

    I don't agree to your thoughts here, sorry.

    Micromax A110 came with a SAR certificate of 0.69 watt/kg rating which is pretty decent in my opinion. Govt of India law regulates that every mobile phone have the SAR rating on it, either on the box or inside it. And everyone, including Samsung or Micromax or Lava for that matter MUST comply.

    Secondly, yes smartphones can be that cheap. And they are. That is where companies like Samsung rake in the profits. But there are other costs involved too. For example, the boards. Samsung etc use ARM processors which are top of the line mobile processors. Micromax etc don't use ARM - they use MediaTek. Performance takes a hit, although the paper specifications may be tempting, but then it is cheap. Same with Graphics processors. Same with RAM. Same with the touch screen hardware, etc. That is a CONSIDERABLE cost-cutting for a mobile phone.

    Next point, Samsung etc invest HEAVILY in advertisements but Micromax etc, although they do advertise even in IPL (Karbonn Kamaal Katch for example) it is very limited and is nowhere near what Samsung or Nokia can afford. And don't forget Samsung/Nokia roping in celebrities for promotions/ads (like SRK in Nokia ad). These costs add up.

    Another point. Samsung does not give stock Android with its phone. It gives what it calls a TouchWiz interface (V4.0 on my S3) which is basically customization of the Android OS with Samsung's own skin. This takes a lot of R&D investment. Micromax on the other hand doesn't bother with all this and simply provides stock Android. Another round of cost cutting.

    Finally, the brand factor. Ten years ago, Samsung (at least in India) was a relatively unheard of name in mobile phones. Nokia was the ruler. Samsung's C100 probably brought the first notable Samsung phone to Indian market. It cost around 10k then. Same spec features given by Nokia was AT LEAST 15k. Brand factor. Which Nokia could leverage then to command a higher premium in the market. And what Samsung does now. And what Micromax will do after five years from now.

    It's not just mobile phones. Meera and Prajjwal were saying that Samsung 40" HD LED TV's cost 30k in Thailand. The same TV cost me 55k in India. My DSLR camera cost me 60k in US, when the price in India was 89k for the same thing.

    It's like getting a branded desktop of DELL or IBM from the market for 70-80k, and getting the same (and better) unit assembled in SP Road for about 30-35k.

    The choice, like you said, is ours! :)

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  6. yeh.......... Itz really amzing...... I dnt knw this al thingz.... Thnk buddy

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  7. Rahul-Why isn't Micromax listed on the SAR-Tick site then?
    And regarding after sales, support and service is pathetic
    I am sure these two things are enough to dissuade me

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